aynı yazılım atılan cıhazlar


**** 7600 sky(H/W 12.03.a5)= gm 7400 cım (12.03.a5)= sunny At 1030 dcı sky (12.03.a5)
Goldmaster 11200=20200=15200=MS120
Goldmaster 11300CI=20300CI=15300CI
Goldmaster 11400=15400CIM=20400CIM
Goldmaster 4300CI=9400CI= 5300CI
Goldmaster 9400VCI = 5300VCI= 9700CIM

aciko 4225sky ile goldmaster 11400 aynı yazılımla çalışıyor

sioxx digital2000 = digital 500
Coship CS2300A\ Leader CS2300A+B3902 Bin._2049kb.
Coship CS5300A\ Leader CS5300A+B3902 Bin._2049kb.
not: Leaderler italik olmuyan (Markası İtalik yazı) yani yeni modellerdir.
tokyo -seoul- Hıroshıma R3m flashlı modellerin yazılımlarıda birbirine uyar.
Kyoto 9600 dci ve Winstec 3000 ci`de birbirine uyuyor

suny ci 7010+7011 hw:12,01,a5
kaon ksc 511 ci hw:12,01,a5
kaon 570z hw:12,01,a1
**** 2005 ci hw:12,01,a5
goltmastır 7300 ci hw:12,01,a5
digiline EK-60040ci hw:12,01,a5
digiçağ AT-6010dcız hw:12,01,a5
hemco GT_60030dcızhw:12,01,a5
xsc550z hw:12,01,a5
ora AT-5010dcı hw:12,01,a5
goldmaster 14300ci = MVision F-7000T e+
goldmaster 14400cim = MVision FCIS 7000
goldmaster 14700 = MVision FCIS 7000 e+
arçelik-beko510dcı=strong 4820p
arçelik-beko500fta=strong4800 p
arçelik-beko510dcı=strong 4820p
arçelik-beko500fta=strong4800 p, Hyundai 830
Aciko 4222 cı ve goldmaster 11.300 cı
Digital 1200 CI: DVB-S, 4000 Ch., 2x Common Interface, M,
Onwa X2: DVB-S, FTA
Onwa X4-FTA: DVB-S, FTA, x
Onwa X6 CI: DVB-S, 2x Common Interface, x
Onwa X13-CIM: DVB-S, x
Onwa X23- CIM: DVB-S, 2x Common Interface, embedded Skycrypt
Goldmaster SAT-8150: DVB-S, FTA, x
Goldmaster SAT-8300 CI: DVB-S, 2x Common Interface
DX 4000: DVB-S, 2000 Ch., FTA, L,
DX 4000 D: DVB-S, 4000 Ch., FTA, AC3, Power Switch, L,
DX 4000 DCI: DVB-S, 4000 Ch., 2x Common Interface, AC3, Power Switch, L, M,
DX 4000 M: DVB-S, 4000 Ch., FTA, AC3, Power Switch, Modulator, L,
Maximum S-901 CX: DVB-S, 2000 Ch., embedded Conax
Maximum S-902 CI: DVB-S, 4000 Ch., 2x Common Interface,
PBI SRK-5518-FTA
PBI SDK-5518-CI Digital Satellite CI IRD
PBI SDK-5518-AI Digital Satellite CA&CIIRD
Opticum1200CI
Sky Plus 4400CI

GoldMaster Sat 7200 FTA = Megastar MS 800 FTA = Onwa X2-FTA =Onwa X3-FTA

H/W numaralarına göre uyumlu cihazlar
H/W: 10.41.65
1M(flash) 8M(ram) 6412 micom _
Kaon KSC 510 / 510H
Kaon KSC 510CO
Kaon KSC 511
Kaon KSC 570
Sunny AT 7010 DCI
Digicag AT 6010 DCI
Ora AT 5010 DCI
GoldMaster Sat 7300 CI
Megastar MS 800CI
Especta ES-2300S UCAS
Especta ES-2100S Conax
Especta ES-2000S 2CI
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H/W: 10.40.65
1M8M 6412 micom _
Kaon KSF 510
Kaon KSF 511
Sunny AT 7010 D
Digicag AT 6010 D
Ora AT 5010 D
GoldMaster Sat 7200 FTA
Onwa X3-FTA
D 77 FTA
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H/W: 11.41.6D
1M
KSC-511H
GoldMaster Sat 7800 PVR
Onwa X9-PVR
Especta es-3000S PVR
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H/W: 12.01.A5
2M8M 4053 No Micom
Kaon KSC 370/ 570
Kaon KSC 511
Kaon KSC 570 CX
Xtreme XSC 550/ 520
Digiline EK-60040 DCI
Hemco GT-60030 DCI
Houston BM-8200 CI
(Stream System)
Streamsystem BM-8300CI
Digiquest 8000 SCI
KSC 560
Manhattan Plaza 3300 CI
Sunny AT 7010 DCI
Sunny AT 7011 DCI
Digicag AT 6010 DCI
Ora AT 5010 DCI
GoldMaster Sat-7300 CI
Onwa X5-CI
Echosat Haifa 9800
**** YE-2005 DCI
Especta ES-2000 S
SAB S-8010 DCI
SAB S-8015 DCI
****vision NV-8050 DCI
Sunny AT-8000 CI
AT-7012 DCI
************************
H/W: 12.03.A5
2M8M No Micom
Xtreme XSC-320/ 520ANV
Xtreme XSC 550ANV
Satstation2/ XSC520
DigiX DSC911A
Digiline EK-60040 DCI Sky
Hemco GT 60030 DCI Sky
****star YE-7600 Sky
Echosat HaifaSky
Sunny AT 1010 DCIA
Sunny AT1030 DCIA
Digicag AT6030 DCIA
GoldMaster Sat7400CIM
GM-Sat 10600 CIM
D 77 CIM
Onwa X7 CIM
Megastar 800CIM
SAB S 8030 DSKY
SAB S-8035 DCIA
****vision NV-8050 DCIA
Especta eS-2200 S Sky
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H/W: 12.41.65
2M8M 6412
Kaon KSC 570 CO
Kaon KSC 570
Kaon KSC 511
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H/W: 12.83.91
2M8M No Micom
Xtreme XSF-200ANV
KSF-200 ANV
XFT-200 ANV
*************************
H/W: 13.01.65
2M16M 6412
Kaon KSC 570
Kaon KSC 370/ 570
*************************
H/W: 13.01.A5
2M4053 no micom
Sunny AT 7010dci
Digicag AT 6010dci
Ora AT 5010DCI
*************************
H/W: 13.41.65
2M16M6412

Kaon KSC 570
Kaon KSC 510
Kaon KSC 500
Atsat ECI 9500s (2CAS)
Arnion UCCI 6410
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H/W: 13.41.6D
2M16M 6412 Micom
Kaon KSC 570 HCO
Kaon KSC 570 H
Kaon KSC 512 H
Kaon KSC 511H
Kaon KSC 510 HCO
Kaon KSC 510 H
Kaon KSC 500 H
Digiquest 8000 HSCI
GoldMaster Sat 7800 PVR
Onwa X9-PVR
Xtreme XSC 520 H
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H/W: 13.42.65
2M16M Micom
Xtreme UCAS (KSC520U)
UCI 6400 / UCI 6400M
DigiX DSC 911U
Atsat ECI 9500 S
MagicBox MSC-9000U
Sunny AT 1020 DCI UCAS
Sunny AT 1010 DCI SKY
EchosatX-7CIM
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H/W: 13.42.6D
2M16M Micom
Xtreme HU (KSC520HU)
HUCI 6500 (Plus )
DigiX DSC911HU
Atsat ECI9500Plus
Arnion UCCI6410sp.
MagicBox MSC9000UPVR
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H/W: 16.00.01
2M8M noScart
Kaon KSF 570
Kiatell 370M
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H/W: 16.00.A1
2M8M4053
Kaon KSF 570
Kaon KSF 511
Digiline EK 60040 D
Hemco GT 60030 D
Sunny AT 7010/7011
Digicag AT 6010 D
Ora AT 5010 D
Echosat Haifa 9600
**** YE-2005 D
Especta ES-1000 S
SAB S-8005 D
SAB S-8000 D
****vision NV-8050 D
AT-7012 D
**************************
H/W: 16.C0.A1
2M
AT-7012 D
AT-8020 D
DSF-911
**************************
H/W: 01.00.00
1M
Mastersat 9300 UCAS
Mastersat M-9900 CI
Technosat 6600 Wonderb.
DigiX DSC 911 U
DigiX DSC 911 HU
KSC 510H Magike Evo
KSC 510
KSC 500 H
Espectra ES-1000 S

focus 8500 cı , spermax 11950 ve starsat 120 cı bunlarda aynı menülü ve aynı programla çalışır
Hyundai1000-CXCI
Atlanta 5400ir2ci+
Technosat 6000 - 5500
Deltasat 1105
Goldvision Magic lux

HYD DC 300 (Hyundai)
Mysat 9000 CI
DMT 6000 CI
Deltasat 1103 CI, 1104 IRCI,
Technosat T-5800
GOLDVISION FTA 1600
Sanyosat 6000 magic
Xcruiser CI
Cihazlar aynı yazılımı kullanıyor.

goldmaster 14400cim = MVision FCIS 7000=hyundai10300

HEMCO 49000 DCX : SKYWOX 12500 DCI
HEMCO 49000DX : SKYWOX 12000 D
denenmiştir

Arion
Ar-300 = Af-1000sa
Ar-310 = Af-1700
af 8100ci = arion 300 =open box8100 c
arion 3000 = ariasat = horizon 2000
Astar =m tech = top tech= truman sans cam
Aston
ASTON COBRA= METABOX
Axess
Axess = Metabox
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C
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CONDOR 5000 FTA=STARSAT 120-130-150 PLUS 1M
CONDOR 5000CI=STARSAT200 ci
CONDOR MAGIC FTA=TECHNOSAT 5200
CONDOR 6000 CI=TECHNOSAT 5800 CI
CONDOR 4500=STARSAT 1700
CONDOR5000=auvsat
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Coship 2300=tboston4500=axil ad600=condor 4000=truman 9000=srt 3680=Iris 3000=Bigsat 5000=Bigsat 8000=Visiosat TVS 4500=Astrovox VSR 2500=Koscom DSR 5002=Maxtronics DSR 5200=Echostar dsr 900 fta
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D
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Digitronic
Digitronic 3000 = Aston Simba202s
Digital 1200 CI = goldmaster 8300 Ci = Oticum 1200 Ci
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E
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Echostar 2330 = concord2330
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EMTEC:
Starsat 210 = Astra 9500 =Hivision 5000
Starsat 150 = Astra 9800
Starsat 120 = Astra 9000
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eMetabox I FTA :
Aciko 3221 FTA: DVB-.S, FTA
Anytopia 2000A: DVB-S, FTA
BeSat eM Bx: DVB-S, FTA
BeSat 3300: DVB-S, FTA
BeSat 3400: DVB-S, FTA
HB Telecom 7000: DVB-S, 1000 Ch., FTA
HB Telecom 7010: DVB-S + analogue, 1000 Ch., FTA
HB Telecom 7200: DVB-S + analogue, 1000 Ch., FTA, Positioner
Humann Anytopia 9000: DVB-S, 3000 Ch., FTA
eMetabox II 1 lecteur de carte et CAM Conax embarquée :
BeSat 5300: DVB-S, embedded Conax
eMetabox III 1 lecteur de carte, CAM Conax embarquée, 2 slots PCMCIA:
Aciko 3222 CI: DVB-S, 2x Common Interface
Aciko 3224 CXCI: DVB-S, embedded Conax, 2x Common Interface
Aciko 3225: DVB-S, embedded Skyrypt, 2x Common Interface
Anytopia 11000: DVB-S, 3000 Ch., 2x Common Interface
BeSat 2400 SuperGold: DVB-S, embedded Multicas, 2x Common Interface
BeSat 5400 Gold: DVB-S, embedded Multicas, 2x Common Interface
BeSat EM 9001 CXCI: DVB-S, embedded Conax, 2x Common Interface
HB Telecom 7500 CI: DVB-S, 1000 Ch., Common Interface
Humanace CI 2002: DVB-S, 2x Common Interface
Taplin8800 CI
Taplin9900 CXCI
Xtreme MSR-5830 CXCI
Voici le site du fabricant :
voici le lien pour les correspondances entre les differents modèles :
sur ce forum il y a aussi les maj firmware
et voici un lien bien sympa avec les utilitaires et les infos sur la machine:
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F:
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Fortec star 5400 = Manhattan 5400
Fortec star 6000 = Manhattan 5900 = Engel es 3003
Fortec star 5600 = ALPHASTAR
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Kaon = Xtreme
Strong 3680 = Truman 9000
Série Kaon:
H/W: 10.00.A1 H/W: 10.00.A5 H/W: 10.01.A5 H/W: 10.03.65 H/W: 10.03.A5 H/W: 10.40.65
1M 1M 4053 no micom 1M 4053 no micom 1M 1M 1M8M 6412 micom
GoldMaster Sat 7200 FTA GoldMaster Sat 7200 GoldMaster Sat 7300 CI Especta ES-2200S Sky GoldMaster Sat 7400 CIM Kaon KSF 510
Megastar MS 800 FTA D 77 FTA Onwa X5-CI Onwa X7-CIM Kaon KSF 511
Onwa X2-FTA D 77 CIM Sunny AT 7010 D
Onwa X3-FTA Digicag AT 6010 D
Ora AT 5010 D
GoldMaster Sat 7200 FTA
Onwa X3-FTA
D 77 FTA
H/W: 10.41.65 H/W: 11.03.65 H/W: 11.41.6D H/W: 11.42.60
1M8M 6412 micom 1M16M no micom 1M 1M
Kaon KSC 510 / 510H Onwa X7 CIM KSC-511H Atsat ECI 9200 2cas
Kaon KSC 510CO GoldMaster Sat 7800 PVR
Kaon KSC 511 Onwa X9-PVR
Kaon KSC 570 Especta es-3000S PVR
Sunny AT 7010 DCI
Digicag AT 6010 DCI
Ora AT 5010 DCI
GoldMaster Sat 7300 CI
Megastar MS 800CI
Especta ES-2300S UCAS
Especta ES-2100S Conax
Especta ES-2000S 2CI
H/W: 12.00.45 H/W: 12.00.A1 H/W: 12.00.A4 H/W: 12.00.A5 H/W: 12.01.A5 H/W: 12.03.A5
2M8M 2M 2M 2M8M no micom 4053 2M8M 4053 2M8M
Kaon KSF 570 CX Sunny AT 7010 D Atsat FTA 5000 KSF 370/ 570 Kaon KSC 370/ 570 Xtreme XSC-320/ 520ANV
Sunny AT 7010 D Kaon KSC 511 Xtreme XSC 550ANV
H/W: 12.00.65 Digicag AT 6010 D Kaon KSC 570 CW Satstation2/ XSC520
2M8M 6412 Ora AT 5010 D Xtreme XSC 550/ 520 DigiX DSC911A
Kaon KSF 370/ 570 Kaon KSF-570 CX Digiline EK-60040 DCI Digiline EK-60040 DCI Sky
Hemco GT-60030 DCI Hemco GT 60030 DCI Sky
H/W: 12.00.05 Houston BM-8200 CI ****star YE-7600 Sky
(Stream System) Echosat HaifaSky
Kaon KSF 570 Digiquest 8000 SCI Sunny AT 1010 DCIA
KSC 560 Sunny AT1030 DCIA
Manhattan Plaza 3300 CI Digicag AT6030 DCIA
Sunny AT 7010 DCI GoldMaster Sat7400CIM
Sunny AT 7011 DCI GM-Sat 10600 CIM
Digicag AT 6010 DCI D 77 CIM
Ora AT 5010 DCI Onwa X7 CIM
GoldMaster Sat-7300 CI Megastar 800CIM
Onwa X5-CI SAB S 8030 DSKY
Echosat Haifa 9800 SAB S-8035 DCIA
****star YE-2005 DCI ****vision NV-8050 DCIA
Especta ES-2000 S Especta eS-2200 S Sky
SAB S-8010 DCI
SAB S-8015 DCI
****vision NV-8050 DCI
H/W: 12.41.21 H/W: 12.41.65 H/W: 12.61.45 H/W: 12.80.91 H/W: 12.83.91
2M8M 6412 2M8M 2M8M
Kaon KSC 570 CO Vision M-98(9)00 CI ? Kaon KSF200Z Xtreme XSF-200ANV
Kaon KSC 570 KSF-200 ANV
Kaon KSC 511 XFT-200 ANV
H/W: 13.01.65 H/W: 13.01.6D H/W: 13.01.A5 H/W: 13.03.A5 H/W: 13.40.6D H/W: 13.41.65
2M16M 6412 2M 2M4053 no micom 2M 2M 2M16M6412
Kaon KSC 570 Kaon KSC 511H Sunny AT 7010dci Xtreme Hornet ??? Kaon KSF 570H Kaon KSC 570
Kaon KSC 370/ 570 Digicag AT 6010dci Kaon KSC 510
Ora AT 5010DCI Kaon KSC 500
Atsat ECI 9500s (2CAS)
Arnion UCCI 6410
H/W: 13.41.6D H/W: 13.41.AD H/W: 13.42.60 H/W: 13.42.65 H/W: 13.42.6D
2M16M 6412 2M16M 2M16M 2M16M 2M16M
Kaon KSC 570 HCO Kaon KSC 570 H Atsat ECI9200 Xtreme UCAS (KSC520U) Xtreme HU (KSC520HU)
Kaon KSC 570 H UCI 6400 / UCI 6400M HUCI 6500 (Plus )
Kaon KSC 512 H DigiX DSC 911U DigiX DSC911HU
Kaon KSC 511H Atsat ECI 9500 S Atsat ECI9500Plus
Kaon KSC 510 HCO MagicBox MSC-9000U Arnion UCCI6410sp.
Kaynak: ReformTürk http://www.reformturk.com/uydu-alicilari-recever/50477-birbirine-uyan-cihazlar.html#post102866
Kaon KSC 510 H Sunny AT 1020 DCI UCAS MagicBox MSC9000UPVR
Kaon KSC 500 H Sunny AT 1010 DCI SKY
Digiquest 8000 HSCI
GoldMaster Sat 7800 PVR
Onwa X9-PVR
Xtreme XSC 520 H
H/W: 16.00.01 H/W: 16.00.A1 H/W: 16.00.A5 H/W: 16.80.01 H/W: 16.80.91
2M8M noScart 2M8M4053 2M 2M8M no Scart 2M8M 1Scart
Kaon KSF 570 Kaon KSF 570 Kaon KSF 570 Kaon KSF-200 Kaon KSF-200 S
Kiatell 370M Kaon KSF 511 Kiatell Digiquest 7000S FTA
Digiline EK 60040 D Ariza Ultra 400
Hemco GT 60030 D
Sunny AT 7010/7011
Digicag AT 6010 D
Ora AT 5010 D
Echosat Haifa 9600
****star YE-2005 D
Especta ES-1000 S
SAB S-8005 D
SAB S-8000 D
****vision NV-8050 D
H/W: 01.00.00 H/W: 01.00.00 Unknown H/W Unknown H/W
1M 2M 2M ?M
Mastersat 9300 UCAS Atsat ECI 9500S Houston BM-1000 FTA EchosatX-7CIM
Technosat 6600 Wonderb. (Streamsystem) EchosatX-5CI
DigiX DSC 911 U Houston BM-8300 CI
DigiX DSC 911 HU (Streamsystem)
KSC 510H Magike Evo Manhattan Plaza 1100 S
KSC 510 Xtreme XSF-550 FTA
KSC 500 H
Espectra ES-1000 S
DVB-T
H/W: 01.00.00 H/W: 02.00.00
1M 2M
Strongtech SRT 5200 Strongtech SRT 5290
Strongtech SRT 5290
SamsungCorp.SDT 103
Televes TDR 7294
H/W: 20.40.65 H/W: 23.60.65 H/W: 23.61.65 H/W: 23.70.6D H/W: 23.70.6F
1M (UHF) 2M (VHF/UHF) 2M (VHF/UHF) 2M 2M
Kaon KTF 570 Kaon KTF 570 Kaon KTC 570 Kaon KTF 570 H Kaon KTF 570 H
Combo DVB S/T
H/W: 43.41.65 H/W: 43.51.65 H/W: 43.61.65 H/W: 43.71.65
2M Samsung Tuner 2M 2 M RF Plus Tuner 2M Thomson Tuner
Kaon KTSC 500CO Xtreme KTSC 520 Kaon KTSC 512 Kaon KTSC 570CO
Kaon KTSC 570 Kaon KTSC 570
Kaon KTSC 570CO
DVB-C
H/W: 33.40.65
2M16M6412 ( Kabel)
Kaon KCF 570CO
4K=4080 Channels ( all 8MB SDRAM Receiver), 8K=8058 Channels (all 16MB SDRAM Receiver, OTA s/w only 4K)
DVB-S Convergence Twin Tuner PVR
H/W: 06:41:31:00:04: H/W: 06:41:31:00:04: H/W: 06:41:32:00:04: H/W: 06:41:32:00:04:
00:11:2B:04:03 00:11:2B:04:13 00:11:2F:05:1B 00:11:2F:05:5B
4M64M 4M64M 4M64M 4M64M
Kaon KSC-N550 H2 Kaon KSC-N550 H2R Kaon KVR-1000 Kaon KVR-1000 Plus
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L
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LAZER 2003 CI = NEOTION BOX 3000
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M
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Magnum
Magnum Md6000=topfield 3000ci
2MG-Guard 9500 FTA Plus = Magnum 250XL 2M
Manhattan
Manhattan5900 = fortecstar 6000 = engel es 3003
Microx
microx =topsat5000(nts)=astravox2500
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N
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Neotion
Neotion box 3000 = Lazer 2003 ci
****wave
****wave2500 plus = G gurd9500 plus
**** wave2500 = odisat = sanyosat4000
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O
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Opentel
open tell3000ci = samsat3000ci
open tell 2000f= samsat2000f
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P
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powersky cisk=openbox8100ci=arion af8100ci=houston bm8100ci
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S
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Samsung
samsung 202 vaci = strong 4400
Stream
Stream system 8200-8300 = Kaon KSC 570 H/W 12.01.A1
Stream system 1000 = Kaon KSF 570 H/W 16.00.A1
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SAGEM
Sagem U1VM3 = Thomson DSI50 (du point de vue hex mais pas du point de vue firm
Starnet
Starnet4300 = Bigsat8000 De Lux
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T:
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Technosat
Technosat 5500 SuperSmart == Technosat 6000 Plus
LG = TECHNOSAT = GOLD VISION MAGIC LUX
THOMSON
DSI21=DSI30 (hex et firm)
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V
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Visionic
SEDEA ADRE 6304 = VISIONIC VNA4303 = nexstar 2000 plus
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X:
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Série Xtreme UCAS (KSC520U)
UCI 6400 / UCI 6400M; DigiX DSC 911U; ATSAT ECI 9500S;
MagicBox MSC-9000U; Sunny AT 1020 DCI UCAS; Sunny AT 1010 DCI SKY
Série X410 et clones:
Auriga Cdtv 410
Cherokee Maestro 9000
Greentech Falcon DSR 520
Métronic Némésis
Sed-karel Cdtv 410
Shark Galeo 1100,1200,1300
Sunkai 410
Xcom Cdtv 410
Xcom Asie Cdtv 410
Xcom Cdtv 410-C
Wordlsat Maestro 1000
Wordlsat Maestro 2000
Cdtv 410
Maestro 1000
Maestro 2000
Cherokee 9000
Auriga Cdtv 410
Falcon DSR 520
Nemesis
Sed-karel Cdtv 410
Galeo 1200
Shark Galeo 1300
H
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Houston
houston8100ci =arion8100ci =obenbox8100ci
Hut
hut2000 =angel1000
hut 2060= hut 2040 =interstar8003 =interstar8004 =manhaten2000
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I:
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Iris 7000 fta = Mvision 1000 FTA
New iris 3000 - New iris 3300 - New iris 3500 = Coship 2300A B3902
Iris 3000 - Iris3300 - Condor 4000 FTA - Condor 4500 fta = topsat5000(pal)= cochib2300a = STR 3680 = Digisky DGS2300
Iris 7000 fcis = Mvision 7000 fcis - Echostar 2330 - concord - Goldvisio 7000 fcis
Série WORLDSAT IMPERIAL 300 400
Kingsat; Discovrey; Columbus......


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